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		<title>Comment on Are Deal Days a good deal for you? by Laura</title>
		<link>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2010/are-deal-days-a-good-deal-for-you#comment-28875</link>
		<author>Laura</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 05:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2010/are-deal-days-a-good-deal-for-you#comment-28875</guid>
		<description>For spas that have all the bookings they need, there is no need to spend money on programs like this. For spa that need bookings, the only question to ask is whether a $50 appointment is better than no appointment.... over time you may find, in your market,  that for a week in the Spring and Fall you get no business because you don't participate and spa goers choose to go to a participating spa for a $50 treatment...if this is acceptable, then you have your answer. If you'd rather be booked up than be left out, participate. I'm no longer in the spa industry, but I do understand marketing. I think spas and businesses in general should care about what and who they support. ASK questions. Do you want to support companies that do not hire minorities? or pay women less? If the company has 80% turnover do you care? Put your marketing dollars where they count but also make sure they are with an organization that has principles and ideals that are compatible with yours. It is the only way to truly change the world....and you can still get rich and be successful at the same time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For spas that have all the bookings they need, there is no need to spend money on programs like this. For spa that need bookings, the only question to ask is whether a $50 appointment is better than no appointment&#8230;. over time you may find, in your market,  that for a week in the Spring and Fall you get no business because you don't participate and spa goers choose to go to a participating spa for a $50 treatment&#8230;if this is acceptable, then you have your answer. If you'd rather be booked up than be left out, participate. I'm no longer in the spa industry, but I do understand marketing. I think spas and businesses in general should care about what and who they support. ASK questions. Do you want to support companies that do not hire minorities? or pay women less? If the company has 80% turnover do you care? Put your marketing dollars where they count but also make sure they are with an organization that has principles and ideals that are compatible with yours. It is the only way to truly change the world&#8230;.and you can still get rich and be successful at the same time.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Your Audience is Online by Kelly</title>
		<link>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2010/your-audience-is-online#comment-28873</link>
		<author>Kelly</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2010/your-audience-is-online#comment-28873</guid>
		<description>Absolutely Nancy - I'll contact you.  Thanks!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Your Audience is Online by Nancy</title>
		<link>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2010/your-audience-is-online#comment-28868</link>
		<author>Nancy</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2010/your-audience-is-online#comment-28868</guid>
		<description>Hi Kelly - could you help me too to be part of the directory?  Nancy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kelly - could you help me too to be part of the directory?  Nancy</p>
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		<title>Comment on Are Deal Days a good deal for you? by Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2010/are-deal-days-a-good-deal-for-you#comment-28865</link>
		<author>Mark</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 06:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2010/are-deal-days-a-good-deal-for-you#comment-28865</guid>
		<description>Once again, it seems like another marketing plan that we chose not to be a part of this year.  There are a number of reasons for this. First, we are in Fort Lauderdale which now has a highly saturated spa market. Second we do primarily massage therapy. We set ourselves apart from the million dollar mega spas and Massage Envys by offering superior service in a highly personal atmosphere, and slashing prices just doesn't bring in that sort of clientele. I don't know if it works this way everywhere or not, but generally those who find us looking for a deal, continue to look for that deal either here, or elsewhere in the future. The same bunch that will be at massage envy getting a cheap massage next week.  It is difficult for us to come up with a bargain treatment at those prices where we can be competitive and still even cover expenses. I realize it is about exposure, but at what cost? Keep your experiences coming in please, I'm excited to hear about how it has worked for all of you. http://www.planetmassage.com/massage_cupping_slipstream</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again, it seems like another marketing plan that we chose not to be a part of this year.  There are a number of reasons for this. First, we are in Fort Lauderdale which now has a highly saturated spa market. Second we do primarily massage therapy. We set ourselves apart from the million dollar mega spas and Massage Envys by offering superior service in a highly personal atmosphere, and slashing prices just doesn't bring in that sort of clientele. I don't know if it works this way everywhere or not, but generally those who find us looking for a deal, continue to look for that deal either here, or elsewhere in the future. The same bunch that will be at massage envy getting a cheap massage next week.  It is difficult for us to come up with a bargain treatment at those prices where we can be competitive and still even cover expenses. I realize it is about exposure, but at what cost? Keep your experiences coming in please, I'm excited to hear about how it has worked for all of you. <a href="http://www.planetmassage.com/massage_cupping_slipstream" >http://www.planetmassage.com/massage_cupping_slipstream</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Your Audience is Online by Kelly</title>
		<link>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2010/your-audience-is-online#comment-28858</link>
		<author>Kelly</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2010/your-audience-is-online#comment-28858</guid>
		<description>Hi Angela - I can help you with that!  I have sent you an email explaining what I need to do to add you to our Joy of Spa directory and more information about Joy of Spa.  Please email or call me if you have any questions.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Angela - I can help you with that!  I have sent you an email explaining what I need to do to add you to our Joy of Spa directory and more information about Joy of Spa.  Please email or call me if you have any questions.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Your Audience is Online by Angela</title>
		<link>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2010/your-audience-is-online#comment-28856</link>
		<author>Angela</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2010/your-audience-is-online#comment-28856</guid>
		<description>Hi guys!  So how do I go about adding my practice to Joy of Spa???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys!  So how do I go about adding my practice to Joy of Spa???</p>
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		<title>Comment on Are Deal Days a good deal for you? by Jackie</title>
		<link>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2010/are-deal-days-a-good-deal-for-you#comment-28847</link>
		<author>Jackie</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2010/are-deal-days-a-good-deal-for-you#comment-28847</guid>
		<description>I joined the SpaFinder Deal Days and did OK considering it was their first time doing this and mine.  I did not internal advertising either, just did not have the time too. So my 13 Deal Days appointments all came via SpaFinder marketing.  I made enough to pay for the ad cost, but I figured this was more about getting exposure.  I may offer a similar $50 for 50 for 1st time customers on going... or will look into it. I've got too many Massage Envy's in my town and some people are looking for that 1st time deal and I don't like the idea of cheapening my brand. However, if I do a very "pared down" version of my signature massage just as a sample taste -- maybe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I joined the SpaFinder Deal Days and did OK considering it was their first time doing this and mine.  I did not internal advertising either, just did not have the time too. So my 13 Deal Days appointments all came via SpaFinder marketing.  I made enough to pay for the ad cost, but I figured this was more about getting exposure.  I may offer a similar $50 for 50 for 1st time customers on going&#8230; or will look into it. I've got too many Massage Envy's in my town and some people are looking for that 1st time deal and I don't like the idea of cheapening my brand. However, if I do a very "pared down" version of my signature massage just as a sample taste &#8212; maybe.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Are Deal Days a good deal for you? by Janet</title>
		<link>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2010/are-deal-days-a-good-deal-for-you#comment-28834</link>
		<author>Janet</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2010/are-deal-days-a-good-deal-for-you#comment-28834</guid>
		<description>Matt, I am a curious how SpaFinder can advertise Deal Days and then the businesses opt out of allowing SpaFinder gift certificates?  This promotes an uncomfortable feeling of "bait and switch" when they go to pay -- like LeVonne mentioned.  Didn't you all think this through?  It almost makes SpaFinder look like the cool "we got a deal for you customers" and then when they pay the spa receptionist is the "big meanie" not accepting the gift certificates.

Really, really think these promos through -- because it is hard to get customers and if you do something that looks like they were bamboozled... it is bad all around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, I am a curious how SpaFinder can advertise Deal Days and then the businesses opt out of allowing SpaFinder gift certificates?  This promotes an uncomfortable feeling of "bait and switch" when they go to pay &#8212; like LeVonne mentioned.  Didn't you all think this through?  It almost makes SpaFinder look like the cool "we got a deal for you customers" and then when they pay the spa receptionist is the "big meanie" not accepting the gift certificates.</p>
<p>Really, really think these promos through &#8212; because it is hard to get customers and if you do something that looks like they were bamboozled&#8230; it is bad all around.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Non-Compete Agreements:  They Can Work by Angeline Papul</title>
		<link>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2008/non-compete-agreements-they-can-work#comment-28833</link>
		<author>Angeline Papul</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2008/non-compete-agreements-they-can-work#comment-28833</guid>
		<description>Hi, I'm an esthetician and am currently being warned by my ex-employe/salon owner to cease working at the current spa I've been employed at for 2 weeks.  According to her non-compete agreement, I am within the 15 mile zone of her salon.  For the past 6 years of my life, I've been a widow and raising my son on my own.  I left the industry for 6 months to start a business of my own and had to return since economic times.  Upon return, I was with her.  I resigned the contract in November and ran into conflicts with her managerial a styles and her unwillingness to work with my sons school schedule. After being shoved back and forth several times, I came to the conclusion I was going to place my two week.  The day of submitting my two weeks I was told to pack and leave. I called all of the clients who had followed me from my other salon to cancel and how I was treated after being faithful to my ex-salon.  Coincidently, the same day I stopped by my previous salon to pick up paper work from the past incident and was offered a position by its new owner.  I accepted it knowing of the non-compete agreement. 

The truth of the matter is she fired me. 2nd, she did exactly what she's telling me not to do is solicit the other salon's clients who followed me from the other salon. As commissioned based employees, she also took our Sundays twice a month and began working us for marketing 6 to 8 hrs non-pay for the salon.  3rd, her unwillingness to work with my schedule for my number one concern to quit... as a single woman raising and sole provider for a household, I make it always clear and upfront prior to my employment that my son's schedule is my priority.   Not only did she take all my days off for mandatory meetings but began scheduling them at 7:45 a.m. before school started.  At the end, she proved her authority over me by stating, "Ultimately, I'm your boss and you have to do as I say." 

Prior to working for her salon, I've been in the area for 3 years and built my clients there as my previous employer did not have a non-compete.  How does she expect me to survive as a head of household and and caring for a child?   Salon owners need to empathize and be caring as well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I'm an esthetician and am currently being warned by my ex-employe/salon owner to cease working at the current spa I've been employed at for 2 weeks.  According to her non-compete agreement, I am within the 15 mile zone of her salon.  For the past 6 years of my life, I've been a widow and raising my son on my own.  I left the industry for 6 months to start a business of my own and had to return since economic times.  Upon return, I was with her.  I resigned the contract in November and ran into conflicts with her managerial a styles and her unwillingness to work with my sons school schedule. After being shoved back and forth several times, I came to the conclusion I was going to place my two week.  The day of submitting my two weeks I was told to pack and leave. I called all of the clients who had followed me from my other salon to cancel and how I was treated after being faithful to my ex-salon.  Coincidently, the same day I stopped by my previous salon to pick up paper work from the past incident and was offered a position by its new owner.  I accepted it knowing of the non-compete agreement. </p>
<p>The truth of the matter is she fired me. 2nd, she did exactly what she's telling me not to do is solicit the other salon's clients who followed me from the other salon. As commissioned based employees, she also took our Sundays twice a month and began working us for marketing 6 to 8 hrs non-pay for the salon.  3rd, her unwillingness to work with my schedule for my number one concern to quit&#8230; as a single woman raising and sole provider for a household, I make it always clear and upfront prior to my employment that my son's schedule is my priority.   Not only did she take all my days off for mandatory meetings but began scheduling them at 7:45 a.m. before school started.  At the end, she proved her authority over me by stating, "Ultimately, I'm your boss and you have to do as I say." </p>
<p>Prior to working for her salon, I've been in the area for 3 years and built my clients there as my previous employer did not have a non-compete.  How does she expect me to survive as a head of household and and caring for a child?   Salon owners need to empathize and be caring as well!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Are Deal Days a good deal for you? by LeVonne de Spa</title>
		<link>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2010/are-deal-days-a-good-deal-for-you#comment-28826</link>
		<author>LeVonne de Spa</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2010/are-deal-days-a-good-deal-for-you#comment-28826</guid>
		<description>This was our first year participating in Deal Days. Deal Days response was positive and the clients drawn were overall appreciative and look promising in the near future. A few were very demanding concerning the ability to use SpaFinder Gift Certificates and Cards. That was disheartening. I don't know if we will use that venue again. Business was not sufficient enough to cover the costs. But, it was not a bad experience. The exposure was good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was our first year participating in Deal Days. Deal Days response was positive and the clients drawn were overall appreciative and look promising in the near future. A few were very demanding concerning the ability to use SpaFinder Gift Certificates and Cards. That was disheartening. I don't know if we will use that venue again. Business was not sufficient enough to cover the costs. But, it was not a bad experience. The exposure was good.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Top of the Heap: Crawling Your Way Up Google Spa Search Results by Kristen</title>
		<link>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2008/top-of-the-heap-crawling-your-way-up-google-spa-search-results#comment-28801</link>
		<author>Kristen</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2008/top-of-the-heap-crawling-your-way-up-google-spa-search-results#comment-28801</guid>
		<description>Website Structure is another important step to keep in mind if you want your site to get great SEO results -- it is normally suggested to keep a flat structure when setting up your website presence. That does not mean however you need to throw everything in the root directory for best results. You should not either however go more than 2-3 levels deep in your directory structure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Website Structure is another important step to keep in mind if you want your site to get great SEO results &#8212; it is normally suggested to keep a flat structure when setting up your website presence. That does not mean however you need to throw everything in the root directory for best results. You should not either however go more than 2-3 levels deep in your directory structure.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How Does SEO and Social Media Feed Your Spa Business? by Kristen</title>
		<link>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2009/how-does-seo-and-social-media-feed-your-spa-business#comment-28800</link>
		<author>Kristen</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2009/how-does-seo-and-social-media-feed-your-spa-business#comment-28800</guid>
		<description>Social media is a great long term investment. An investment in relationships. Relationships take time to build. I think social media will help my business for years to come. That’s as long as our services continue to provide value to our clients, I’m passionate about helping people feel better and eliminate their body’s aches and pains naturally so I genuinely connect with people with an honest concern for their needs. I’m currently using Twitter. It allows me to find local Twitter users and maybe gain more local followers that way.    Kristen T. LMT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Social media is a great long term investment. An investment in relationships. Relationships take time to build. I think social media will help my business for years to come. That’s as long as our services continue to provide value to our clients, I’m passionate about helping people feel better and eliminate their body’s aches and pains naturally so I genuinely connect with people with an honest concern for their needs. I’m currently using Twitter. It allows me to find local Twitter users and maybe gain more local followers that way.    Kristen T. LMT</p>
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		<title>Comment on Are Deal Days a good deal for you? by Vivian</title>
		<link>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2010/are-deal-days-a-good-deal-for-you#comment-28799</link>
		<author>Vivian</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2010/are-deal-days-a-good-deal-for-you#comment-28799</guid>
		<description>This was our 1st time participating in Deal Days and it did not work well for us. It's been 6 days and we have had only 3 or 4 new customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was our 1st time participating in Deal Days and it did not work well for us. It's been 6 days and we have had only 3 or 4 new customers.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The lost art of Service by SP</title>
		<link>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2010/the-lost-art-of-service#comment-28796</link>
		<author>SP</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2010/the-lost-art-of-service#comment-28796</guid>
		<description>I am not too old but I was taught to turn the lights off when you left the room and to say "please" and "thank you".  I am amazed how this "norm" in service is not just related to the younger generations, also those who grew up in the 60's and so on can be found unflavorful.  What is worse is when you do speak up to management and you can tell they don't care either, they are only getting a $.75 pay difference.  My first job was in fast food and we had secret shoppers, I think on how hard it was to get a 100% and how many times customer service is not driven by appreciation or a sense of accomplishment and self worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not too old but I was taught to turn the lights off when you left the room and to say "please" and "thank you".  I am amazed how this "norm" in service is not just related to the younger generations, also those who grew up in the 60's and so on can be found unflavorful.  What is worse is when you do speak up to management and you can tell they don't care either, they are only getting a $.75 pay difference.  My first job was in fast food and we had secret shoppers, I think on how hard it was to get a 100% and how many times customer service is not driven by appreciation or a sense of accomplishment and self worth.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Are Deal Days a good deal for you? by Flor</title>
		<link>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2010/are-deal-days-a-good-deal-for-you#comment-28786</link>
		<author>Flor</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2010/are-deal-days-a-good-deal-for-you#comment-28786</guid>
		<description>Last year I participated in Spa Week.  The one for Spring was very good.  We were booked solid for two weeks, so I decided to do it again for the Fall and it was completely dead. Now I am trying Deal Days with SpaFinder.  So far, I have 5 appointments of which 3 are already my clients.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last year I participated in Spa Week.  The one for Spring was very good.  We were booked solid for two weeks, so I decided to do it again for the Fall and it was completely dead. Now I am trying Deal Days with SpaFinder.  So far, I have 5 appointments of which 3 are already my clients.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The lost art of Service by Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2010/the-lost-art-of-service#comment-28778</link>
		<author>Mark</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2010/the-lost-art-of-service#comment-28778</guid>
		<description>Funny, I started working in the service industry many years ago and can actually remember being properly trained in service at a number of jobs. I dont see that happening much these days, or workers are just forgeting the skill. &lt;a href="http://www.planetmassage.com/medical_massage_therapy" rel="nofollow"&gt;Planet Massage&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, I started working in the service industry many years ago and can actually remember being properly trained in service at a number of jobs. I dont see that happening much these days, or workers are just forgeting the skill. <a href="http://www.planetmassage.com/medical_massage_therapy" >Planet Massage</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Don't sell your soul to the discount devil by Shelly</title>
		<link>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2010/dont-sell-your-soul-to-the-discount-devil#comment-28771</link>
		<author>Shelly</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2010/dont-sell-your-soul-to-the-discount-devil#comment-28771</guid>
		<description>I strongly disagree with Mr. Rangel.  As business owners, many of us have looked at Groupon (and similar business models) with great detail because we are always looking for effective ways to market our business.  In my research, I came across numerous posts on the internet by "serial" Grouponites, who are not interested in finding a salon for the long term.  They freely admit that they no longer go to their regular stylist because they can get their hair done for half-price at other establishments with Groupon deals.  Some posters admit they would never be able to afford the salons and spas they visited with Groupon. 

Now, I realize that these comments are anecdotal, but it forced me to think long and hard whether Groupon-like advertising was right for my salon and spa business.  How many of these people are visiting my salon because they could not afford it otherwise and does this mean there is no opportunity to upsell beyond a $15 brow wax?  If I do a Groupon and sell 50-100, 1/2-off services, how am I going to pay my employees their commission?  I can't really ask them to work for free!  How do other salons afford this?  Do they give Groupon people to their junior stylist or therapist (who they are paying hourly) and hope they can handle the influx of people?  Will the Groupon client write a bad review if the junior stylist doesn't meet their expectations?  And the most important question: If you limit the Groupon deal to new clients, how will your loyal clients feel?  I don't know about you, but if my loyal clients saw that I was offering a Groupon Deal for 1/2-off, they wouldn't be happy. Conversely, if the Groupon deal was open to everyone, how many of our regular, paying clients would buy-in?  OUCH!  

In my view, Groupon is better suited for a restaurant or coffee shop where there is a better opportunity to upsell and the employee is paid hourly (not commission). Unfortunately, I am seeing many "upscale" salons and spas jumping on the bandwagon.  I recently saw a struggling competitor succumb to a ridiculously discounted group buying deal. To me, in this industry, it is a desperation tactic.  Unfortunately, it is dragging all of us down by eroding our prices and changing consumer behavior.  Small businesses will take longer to recover in this recession and will delay hiring new staff while they try to recover their pricing structure.  We might hold off buying new equipment or making capital improvements. Groupon-like businesses are not helping the recovery, they are delaying it.  I also find it interesting that Groupon employees are combing through the internet and replying to discussion boards to defend their business model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I strongly disagree with Mr. Rangel.  As business owners, many of us have looked at Groupon (and similar business models) with great detail because we are always looking for effective ways to market our business.  In my research, I came across numerous posts on the internet by "serial" Grouponites, who are not interested in finding a salon for the long term.  They freely admit that they no longer go to their regular stylist because they can get their hair done for half-price at other establishments with Groupon deals.  Some posters admit they would never be able to afford the salons and spas they visited with Groupon. </p>
<p>Now, I realize that these comments are anecdotal, but it forced me to think long and hard whether Groupon-like advertising was right for my salon and spa business.  How many of these people are visiting my salon because they could not afford it otherwise and does this mean there is no opportunity to upsell beyond a $15 brow wax?  If I do a Groupon and sell 50-100, 1/2-off services, how am I going to pay my employees their commission?  I can't really ask them to work for free!  How do other salons afford this?  Do they give Groupon people to their junior stylist or therapist (who they are paying hourly) and hope they can handle the influx of people?  Will the Groupon client write a bad review if the junior stylist doesn't meet their expectations?  And the most important question: If you limit the Groupon deal to new clients, how will your loyal clients feel?  I don't know about you, but if my loyal clients saw that I was offering a Groupon Deal for 1/2-off, they wouldn't be happy. Conversely, if the Groupon deal was open to everyone, how many of our regular, paying clients would buy-in?  OUCH!  </p>
<p>In my view, Groupon is better suited for a restaurant or coffee shop where there is a better opportunity to upsell and the employee is paid hourly (not commission). Unfortunately, I am seeing many "upscale" salons and spas jumping on the bandwagon.  I recently saw a struggling competitor succumb to a ridiculously discounted group buying deal. To me, in this industry, it is a desperation tactic.  Unfortunately, it is dragging all of us down by eroding our prices and changing consumer behavior.  Small businesses will take longer to recover in this recession and will delay hiring new staff while they try to recover their pricing structure.  We might hold off buying new equipment or making capital improvements. Groupon-like businesses are not helping the recovery, they are delaying it.  I also find it interesting that Groupon employees are combing through the internet and replying to discussion boards to defend their business model.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Are Deal Days a good deal for you? by Matt Hurst</title>
		<link>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2010/are-deal-days-a-good-deal-for-you#comment-28761</link>
		<author>Matt Hurst</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've been helping SpaFinder promote Deal Days, and unlike some other commenters (who either run their spas offline or are trying to hide their identity) I've heard a lot of success stories from participating spas this week.  Many spas are booked solid through the rest of the week-long promotion, although some spas are having trouble getting the word out.  

In helping promote the event, I've noticed the most successful spas have been promoting the event online- which gives us the opportunity to re-tweet, blog, and update our Facebook page to amplify their word of mouth marketing.  To be fair we're promoting 600+ spas in 39 US states (and DC) it'd be unreasonable to every spa to have a runaway success.  However I've heard measurable excitement from consumers, many of whom would be otherwise reluctant to get spa treatment under this economic stress, since these promotions offer a strong and meaningful incentive that encourages brand/spa loyalty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've been helping SpaFinder promote Deal Days, and unlike some other commenters (who either run their spas offline or are trying to hide their identity) I've heard a lot of success stories from participating spas this week.  Many spas are booked solid through the rest of the week-long promotion, although some spas are having trouble getting the word out.  </p>
<p>In helping promote the event, I've noticed the most successful spas have been promoting the event online- which gives us the opportunity to re-tweet, blog, and update our Facebook page to amplify their word of mouth marketing.  To be fair we're promoting 600+ spas in 39 US states (and DC) it'd be unreasonable to every spa to have a runaway success.  However I've heard measurable excitement from consumers, many of whom would be otherwise reluctant to get spa treatment under this economic stress, since these promotions offer a strong and meaningful incentive that encourages brand/spa loyalty.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Don't sell your soul to the discount devil by David Rangel</title>
		<link>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2010/dont-sell-your-soul-to-the-discount-devil#comment-28759</link>
		<author>David Rangel</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2010/dont-sell-your-soul-to-the-discount-devil#comment-28759</guid>
		<description>I am a Groupon employee and would like to write a few quick points regarding this post and subsequent comments. At Groupon we work really hard to help our business customers, so it's great to see an open discussion of these topics. However, we respectfully disagree with some of the points made above:

&lt;ol&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Groupon and business brands -- Groupon, from the beginning, has been all about exposing people to fun, quality businesses and activities in their cities. We only feature a mix of highly-rated businesses and we do everything we can to make sure both the business and consumers have a great experience. Because of this, the majority of our subscribers see our deals as opportunities to discover highly-regarded businesses and try new things -- not as a way to get cheap deals.

In addition, the one-time, one-day-only nature of our deals does not condition people to expect consistent discounts from one specific business. In fact, it is the opposite -- when people see a Groupon they know they have to act quickly in order to take advantage of an unbeatable opportunity.&lt;/li&gt;

&lt;li&gt;Groupon buyers -- The Groupon customer demographics are highly attractive (70% female, high income, highly educated). Most of them are not serial deal buyers, moving from one spa deal to the next. As mentioned above, they want to find interesting new businesses in their neighborhoods. Because of this, the vast majority of our business customers have had great results and are strong advocates for Groupon.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ol&gt;

A business' goals when running a Groupon are essentially the same as those with other marketing channels: get new customers in the door, after which they strive to give them a great experience and convert them into repeat business. Groupon, in addition, has big advantages -- it is highly trackable, requires no upfront investment and results in a great deal of media exposure and word-of-mouth.

Thank you for the opportunity to post and add to the discussion. Hopefully this helps, but feel free to let us know if we can answer other questions. Our site for businesses, &lt;a href="http://www.grouponworks.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;GrouponWorks&lt;/a&gt;, has a lot of information and case studies that talk to the points made above.

Thanks,

&lt;a href="mailto:david AT groupon DOT com" rel="nofollow"&gt;David Rangel&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Groupon employee and would like to write a few quick points regarding this post and subsequent comments. At Groupon we work really hard to help our business customers, so it's great to see an open discussion of these topics. However, we respectfully disagree with some of the points made above:</p>
<ol>
<li>Groupon and business brands &#8212; Groupon, from the beginning, has been all about exposing people to fun, quality businesses and activities in their cities. We only feature a mix of highly-rated businesses and we do everything we can to make sure both the business and consumers have a great experience. Because of this, the majority of our subscribers see our deals as opportunities to discover highly-regarded businesses and try new things &#8212; not as a way to get cheap deals.
<p>In addition, the one-time, one-day-only nature of our deals does not condition people to expect consistent discounts from one specific business. In fact, it is the opposite &#8212; when people see a Groupon they know they have to act quickly in order to take advantage of an unbeatable opportunity.</li>
<li>Groupon buyers &#8212; The Groupon customer demographics are highly attractive (70% female, high income, highly educated). Most of them are not serial deal buyers, moving from one spa deal to the next. As mentioned above, they want to find interesting new businesses in their neighborhoods. Because of this, the vast majority of our business customers have had great results and are strong advocates for Groupon.</li>
</ol>
<p>A business' goals when running a Groupon are essentially the same as those with other marketing channels: get new customers in the door, after which they strive to give them a great experience and convert them into repeat business. Groupon, in addition, has big advantages &#8212; it is highly trackable, requires no upfront investment and results in a great deal of media exposure and word-of-mouth.</p>
<p>Thank you for the opportunity to post and add to the discussion. Hopefully this helps, but feel free to let us know if we can answer other questions. Our site for businesses, <a href="http://www.grouponworks.com" >GrouponWorks</a>, has a lot of information and case studies that talk to the points made above.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p><a href="mailto:david AT groupon DOT com" >David Rangel</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Are Deal Days a good deal for you? by Laila</title>
		<link>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2010/are-deal-days-a-good-deal-for-you#comment-28758</link>
		<author>Laila</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2010/are-deal-days-a-good-deal-for-you#comment-28758</guid>
		<description>I have participated in Spa Week before, and my results were off the charts.  When SpaFinder contacted me, I was made to believe that "Deal Days" was the same thing.  Thus far, I have received not one call from any customer about this -- not even my regulars.  By comparison, the Spa Week event is far superior to "Deal Days," and this is definitely something I will never do again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have participated in Spa Week before, and my results were off the charts.  When SpaFinder contacted me, I was made to believe that "Deal Days" was the same thing.  Thus far, I have received not one call from any customer about this &#8212; not even my regulars.  By comparison, the Spa Week event is far superior to "Deal Days," and this is definitely something I will never do again.</p>
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