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		<title>By: Paiu;</title>
		<link>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2007/massage-envy-envy/comment-page-6#comment-44429</link>
		<dc:creator>Paiu;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2011 04:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I own another Franchise very similar to Massage Envy. Our prices are the same at ME. We have 16 therapists and I can say that ALL of them are very happy as well as our customers. I believe that this pricing model does not cheapen massages. In fact, because we make massage more affordable for most people that MORE people get into the regular practice of receiving a massage....something good for EVERYONE&gt; The massage industry is growing with a wide variety of facilities for the customer.  Find your niche and do it well. There are plenty of customers thanks in part to ME and facilities like mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I own another Franchise very similar to Massage Envy. Our prices are the same at ME. We have 16 therapists and I can say that ALL of them are very happy as well as our customers. I believe that this pricing model does not cheapen massages. In fact, because we make massage more affordable for most people that MORE people get into the regular practice of receiving a massage&#8230;.something good for EVERYONE&gt; The massage industry is growing with a wide variety of facilities for the customer.  Find your niche and do it well. There are plenty of customers thanks in part to ME and facilities like mine.</p>
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		<title>By: karen rands</title>
		<link>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2007/massage-envy-envy/comment-page-6#comment-41946</link>
		<dc:creator>karen rands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My experience with Massage Envy is that they are very routine and mechanical in their delivery of a massage.  I think they target the first time massage person who is willing to give a try or treat themselves for the promo price of $49.  Their membership model is a broken model because it assumes that that promo price person is willing to commit to getting a massage every month and spending upwards to $80 a month doing it.  Part of the success of any business is to get repeat customers.  When they first came on board, it was novel, and had an impact against independent operators.  Successful spas have countered that by offering multipack massages you can use anytime.... by 5 for the price of 4 kind of things... you can bring a friend whatever.  
And you should also be aware that they will often not honor the promo coupon that is mailed out, claiming corporate changed the price and therefore they are unable to honor that promo price that got you into the store to begin with.  You are there, so what are you going to do.... suck it up and go for the shorter period for the same money or pay more.  They still give you a new visitor price, but not as good as the promo coupon that got you in the door.  They make you feel like cattle... in and out as quickly as they can get you in and if you don&#039;t sign up RIGHT THEN for the membership deal, then we really don&#039;t want anything else to do with you because if were to come back EVER, we&#039;ll charge twice the amount... so there.  
The only thing that keeps them in business is that they have great branding and a big marketing budget, they are located in populated areas that can provide a constant churn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My experience with Massage Envy is that they are very routine and mechanical in their delivery of a massage.  I think they target the first time massage person who is willing to give a try or treat themselves for the promo price of $49.  Their membership model is a broken model because it assumes that that promo price person is willing to commit to getting a massage every month and spending upwards to $80 a month doing it.  Part of the success of any business is to get repeat customers.  When they first came on board, it was novel, and had an impact against independent operators.  Successful spas have countered that by offering multipack massages you can use anytime&#8230;. by 5 for the price of 4 kind of things&#8230; you can bring a friend whatever.<br />
And you should also be aware that they will often not honor the promo coupon that is mailed out, claiming corporate changed the price and therefore they are unable to honor that promo price that got you into the store to begin with.  You are there, so what are you going to do&#8230;. suck it up and go for the shorter period for the same money or pay more.  They still give you a new visitor price, but not as good as the promo coupon that got you in the door.  They make you feel like cattle&#8230; in and out as quickly as they can get you in and if you don't sign up RIGHT THEN for the membership deal, then we really don't want anything else to do with you because if were to come back EVER, we'll charge twice the amount&#8230; so there.<br />
The only thing that keeps them in business is that they have great branding and a big marketing budget, they are located in populated areas that can provide a constant churn.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
		<link>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2007/massage-envy-envy/comment-page-6#comment-39917</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2011 13:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Message Envy has upset a lot of customers, and it&#039;s difficult to see how they can continue doing business with their reputation plummeting. They really need to revise their policies, and probably change top level management. Their system of contracts just sounds awful!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Message Envy has upset a lot of customers, and it's difficult to see how they can continue doing business with their reputation plummeting. They really need to revise their policies, and probably change top level management. Their system of contracts just sounds awful!</p>
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		<title>By: kristen</title>
		<link>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2007/massage-envy-envy/comment-page-6#comment-39610</link>
		<dc:creator>kristen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 02:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do not become a member! All you&#039;re paying for is the massage to get rid of the stress caused by Massage Envy. No courtesy, just policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do not become a member! All you're paying for is the massage to get rid of the stress caused by Massage Envy. No courtesy, just policy.</p>
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		<title>By: carmen</title>
		<link>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2007/massage-envy-envy/comment-page-6#comment-39564</link>
		<dc:creator>carmen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Apr 2011 18:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Horrible company... terrible services.  Once you book your appointment and get the massage everything looks good. Once you are done and you are out they try to hook you with a membership that leaves you more stress out than the way you were in the first place... DO NOT CHOOSE MASSAGE ENVY.  You&#039;re better off going to place that you are free to choose services when you want.. believe me, they are good places with much better services than this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Horrible company&#8230; terrible services.  Once you book your appointment and get the massage everything looks good. Once you are done and you are out they try to hook you with a membership that leaves you more stress out than the way you were in the first place&#8230; DO NOT CHOOSE MASSAGE ENVY.  You're better off going to place that you are free to choose services when you want.. believe me, they are good places with much better services than this.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris f</title>
		<link>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2007/massage-envy-envy/comment-page-6#comment-38957</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris f</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 20:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My experience with Massage Envy is terrible. I signed up for the membership in Jan of 2011. I have not been able to get any massage at all because they cancelled my appt the day of twice. I feel Massage Envy just wanted to keep charging me for the membership but not offer any massage services. The service is at a discounted price because they are NOT reliable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My experience with Massage Envy is terrible. I signed up for the membership in Jan of 2011. I have not been able to get any massage at all because they cancelled my appt the day of twice. I feel Massage Envy just wanted to keep charging me for the membership but not offer any massage services. The service is at a discounted price because they are NOT reliable.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2007/massage-envy-envy/comment-page-6#comment-38367</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 20:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been going to massage envy twice a month for over a year now and I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT!!!!  I live in Charlotte and have visited each of the 3 locations near me.  I have yet to receive a bad massage or customer service.  I get treated like I own the place when I walk in and the staff there is always so friendly to me.   

The massages I receive are excellent and beyond comparable.  You will always run into good massage therapist and bad massage therapist. I&#039;ve been to locally owned salons and felt like I haven&#039;t even been touched when I left and I have been to other big massage places and felt like I had the life pounded out of me.  I always enjoy my massages at massage Envy.  I&#039;m very upfront about what I expect when I go in and they are always good about working on my problem areas.  They made it a very easy transition from my normal deep tissue massage to a pre natal massage when I found out I was pregnant.

I&#039;ve always enjoyed my massages and customer service there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been going to massage envy twice a month for over a year now and I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT!!!!  I live in Charlotte and have visited each of the 3 locations near me.  I have yet to receive a bad massage or customer service.  I get treated like I own the place when I walk in and the staff there is always so friendly to me.   </p>
<p>The massages I receive are excellent and beyond comparable.  You will always run into good massage therapist and bad massage therapist. I've been to locally owned salons and felt like I haven't even been touched when I left and I have been to other big massage places and felt like I had the life pounded out of me.  I always enjoy my massages at massage Envy.  I'm very upfront about what I expect when I go in and they are always good about working on my problem areas.  They made it a very easy transition from my normal deep tissue massage to a pre natal massage when I found out I was pregnant.</p>
<p>I've always enjoyed my massages and customer service there.</p>
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		<title>By: beware the cancellation</title>
		<link>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2007/massage-envy-envy/comment-page-6#comment-38152</link>
		<dc:creator>beware the cancellation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2011 22:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here was my recent experience, and the letter I sent to their corporate office:

I have been on the monthly Massage Envy program for about one year.    The staff is very nice, and the massages I’ve received have been good.  Stephanie, at the front desk, is very good at remembering my name, even when I’ve forgotten hers.  The location is very convenient, and very nice inside.  All around, the membership has been a good thing.  

About a two months ago, I realized that my life had gotten better, evidenced in part by the multiple massages I had on account.  Last Spring, I was getting about one per week, but now it had been three months.  I wanted to cancel the membership to save on monthly expenses, and was told/reminded of the cancellation policy.  That is, I would get billed once more, and I’d have just 30 days to use up my pre-paid massages.  I found this pretty frustrating as my time is short, and I don’t like to waste things I find valuable, and three massages in a month would be wasting them, in my view.  In addition, I had had some fraud on my credit card, and had to go to the shop to provide my new number, and to sign the cancellation form.  I did go by the shop to switch the card accounts, but didn’t yet cancel.   I waited and tried to find time to get another massage.  A few weeks passed. 

I ended up canceling that credit account altogether, and shifted to another company.  This meant I would have to go into the shop again to switch the account.  And, I still hadn’t gotten another massage.  I was up to three pre-paid massages on my account now.  I went in to sign the cancellation form, would not provide my new credit card number, and was told that Amanda the manager would call.  After about a week, she finally called. 

Amanda and I had a long discussion about this cancellation policy.  I realize that she is a shop manager, and that she is required to follow franchise rules.  

This email is, therefore, directed to those of you that make the policies. 

I think you REALLY do understand Customer Service -– when you are acquiring and keeping existing customers. 

I think you REALLY missed the boat on how the cancellation experience affects the long-term customer perception.  Had my cancellation process gone the way I think it should have, I would never have written this letter, and I would have considered being a customer in the future, and I would have continued to recommend you to friends.  Now -– not so.  

Here were the options I was looking for:

	 1.	Refund the cost of my three massages that were on account. 
	 2.	Give me gift certificates for myself or friends/family for the massages on my account. 
	 3.	Give me more than 30 days to use my massages. 

Amanda would not grant any of these options.  Her only concessions was to not bill my new credit card for the final payment.  And, she reminded me that a few locations around town now offer facials, so that was an alternative for me.  Nice, but I don’t do facials, and I still have to use three massages in 30 days.  Still a waste, in my opinion, and I’m still not really a happy customer.  I’ll try to use those massages, but I’m soured on Massage Envy, and not really happy about being there.  

As for attempting to understand your policy, I think you might see your business as something like the gym -– we pay for the month and can come or not, but we still pay.  The difference is that the gym is there for me nearly 24 x 7 for a plethora of work out options.  I don’t require an appointment, and I know I’m purchasing a membership.  Your marketing, on the other hand, clearly tells me that I’m getting one one-hour massage per month for $39.  If I cancel, I want my money or my massages back in return, and with an expiration period more like a gift certificate vs. just 30 days.  

So, I’ve cancelled, I’m sending this letter, I may choose to post it on the internet and tell my friends, and I’m trying to use up three massages in 30 days.  

I would suggest you evaluate your cancellation process and policies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here was my recent experience, and the letter I sent to their corporate office:</p>
<p>I have been on the monthly Massage Envy program for about one year.    The staff is very nice, and the massages I’ve received have been good.  Stephanie, at the front desk, is very good at remembering my name, even when I’ve forgotten hers.  The location is very convenient, and very nice inside.  All around, the membership has been a good thing.  </p>
<p>About a two months ago, I realized that my life had gotten better, evidenced in part by the multiple massages I had on account.  Last Spring, I was getting about one per week, but now it had been three months.  I wanted to cancel the membership to save on monthly expenses, and was told/reminded of the cancellation policy.  That is, I would get billed once more, and I’d have just 30 days to use up my pre-paid massages.  I found this pretty frustrating as my time is short, and I don’t like to waste things I find valuable, and three massages in a month would be wasting them, in my view.  In addition, I had had some fraud on my credit card, and had to go to the shop to provide my new number, and to sign the cancellation form.  I did go by the shop to switch the card accounts, but didn’t yet cancel.   I waited and tried to find time to get another massage.  A few weeks passed. </p>
<p>I ended up canceling that credit account altogether, and shifted to another company.  This meant I would have to go into the shop again to switch the account.  And, I still hadn’t gotten another massage.  I was up to three pre-paid massages on my account now.  I went in to sign the cancellation form, would not provide my new credit card number, and was told that Amanda the manager would call.  After about a week, she finally called. </p>
<p>Amanda and I had a long discussion about this cancellation policy.  I realize that she is a shop manager, and that she is required to follow franchise rules.  </p>
<p>This email is, therefore, directed to those of you that make the policies. </p>
<p>I think you REALLY do understand Customer Service -– when you are acquiring and keeping existing customers. </p>
<p>I think you REALLY missed the boat on how the cancellation experience affects the long-term customer perception.  Had my cancellation process gone the way I think it should have, I would never have written this letter, and I would have considered being a customer in the future, and I would have continued to recommend you to friends.  Now -– not so.  </p>
<p>Here were the options I was looking for:</p>
<p>	 1.	Refund the cost of my three massages that were on account.<br />
	 2.	Give me gift certificates for myself or friends/family for the massages on my account.<br />
	 3.	Give me more than 30 days to use my massages. </p>
<p>Amanda would not grant any of these options.  Her only concessions was to not bill my new credit card for the final payment.  And, she reminded me that a few locations around town now offer facials, so that was an alternative for me.  Nice, but I don’t do facials, and I still have to use three massages in 30 days.  Still a waste, in my opinion, and I’m still not really a happy customer.  I’ll try to use those massages, but I’m soured on Massage Envy, and not really happy about being there.  </p>
<p>As for attempting to understand your policy, I think you might see your business as something like the gym -– we pay for the month and can come or not, but we still pay.  The difference is that the gym is there for me nearly 24 x 7 for a plethora of work out options.  I don’t require an appointment, and I know I’m purchasing a membership.  Your marketing, on the other hand, clearly tells me that I’m getting one one-hour massage per month for $39.  If I cancel, I want my money or my massages back in return, and with an expiration period more like a gift certificate vs. just 30 days.  </p>
<p>So, I’ve cancelled, I’m sending this letter, I may choose to post it on the internet and tell my friends, and I’m trying to use up three massages in 30 days.  </p>
<p>I would suggest you evaluate your cancellation process and policies.</p>
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		<title>By: A Customer</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Customer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 02:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been a customer of Massage Envy and consider some of their business practices to be unethical. Their &quot;Wellness Program&quot; or monthly contract for an hour of massage is nearly impossible to get out of. Many folks have had to cancel their credit card to try and stop the monthly charges from continuing even after serious concerted effort to jump through the challenging hoops they throw in the way to get out of the contract. I feel like I&#039;ve been scammed and like so many others have lost hundreds of dollars by making the mistake of relenting to the pressure put on me after that introductory massage that first time I went in to sign up for a monthly discount on an hour session. What a mistake and I caution consumers and ask that those in the profession be careful of Massage Envy&#039;s unethical business practices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've been a customer of Massage Envy and consider some of their business practices to be unethical. Their "Wellness Program" or monthly contract for an hour of massage is nearly impossible to get out of. Many folks have had to cancel their credit card to try and stop the monthly charges from continuing even after serious concerted effort to jump through the challenging hoops they throw in the way to get out of the contract. I feel like I've been scammed and like so many others have lost hundreds of dollars by making the mistake of relenting to the pressure put on me after that introductory massage that first time I went in to sign up for a monthly discount on an hour session. What a mistake and I caution consumers and ask that those in the profession be careful of Massage Envy's unethical business practices.</p>
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		<title>By: Léa</title>
		<link>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2007/massage-envy-envy/comment-page-6#comment-33738</link>
		<dc:creator>Léa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Dec 2010 03:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the concept because I too cannot afford to pay the exuberant prices charged at the spas (especially here in S. Florida), but the therapist work like factory workers and can do as many as 6-8 massages a day and make only $150--$200!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the concept because I too cannot afford to pay the exuberant prices charged at the spas (especially here in S. Florida), but the therapist work like factory workers and can do as many as 6-8 massages a day and make only $150&#8211;$200!</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
		<link>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2007/massage-envy-envy/comment-page-6#comment-33714</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Dec 2010 17:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure of any&quot; experience&quot; they are selling besides poor service... I just left with a party of 7 disappointed women there to celebrate a birthday because members of our party were treated poorly and unprofessionally... when you are in the service industry, service should ALWAYS come first!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure of any" experience" they are selling besides poor service&#8230; I just left with a party of 7 disappointed women there to celebrate a birthday because members of our party were treated poorly and unprofessionally&#8230; when you are in the service industry, service should ALWAYS come first!!</p>
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		<title>By: The Massage Asylum</title>
		<link>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2007/massage-envy-envy/comment-page-6#comment-33162</link>
		<dc:creator>The Massage Asylum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 05:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They lack mobile service. Many people feel more comfortable in their home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They lack mobile service. Many people feel more comfortable in their home.</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2007/massage-envy-envy/comment-page-6#comment-31603</link>
		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 17:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the best way to go is to improve the quality
of the service to compete properly...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the best way to go is to improve the quality<br />
of the service to compete properly&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: D</title>
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		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2010 06:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I currently work at Massage Envy.  I am at my 3 month review as a SA. I love the place and 97% of the people.  The owner has 3 here and all three are manage by the same guy &amp; girl. Management is very poor in solving customers problems that are beyond our hands.  The ACA, same thing but worse.  They are about money, money, and money. So we fell pressured to sell hard, not about customer service. Treats are given almost everyday, to therapist and SAs. The memberships are good but be ready to commit to 12 months. We do the best we can do as SAs!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I currently work at Massage Envy.  I am at my 3 month review as a SA. I love the place and 97% of the people.  The owner has 3 here and all three are manage by the same guy &amp; girl. Management is very poor in solving customers problems that are beyond our hands.  The ACA, same thing but worse.  They are about money, money, and money. So we fell pressured to sell hard, not about customer service. Treats are given almost everyday, to therapist and SAs. The memberships are good but be ready to commit to 12 months. We do the best we can do as SAs!!!</p>
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		<title>By: musiclady</title>
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		<dc:creator>musiclady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 04:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I currently work at a Massage Envy and to be quite honest, I hate it with a passion!!! The only thing that is keeping me there is my poor clients!!! All my clients would much rather see me outside of there and are tired of having to tip me so much because of how cheaply I&#039;m paid! I originally was hired in at $17.00 per hour with pay raises of 85 cent every 550 massages. Since then they have done away with merit raises which was based on performance. Now I have to fall under four categories in order to get a raise. 1) 3 in-a-row, 6 in-a-day; (2) deep tissue; (3) pre-natal or hot stone; (4) 2 hour massages. Since I only do 2 of these I can only get a 50 cent raise after two years of service!!! This was not what I was hired under and I think it is ridiculous that I just have to accept the changes. I was last year&#039;s most requested therapist and all I got was a $10 gift card to Dominick&#039;s!!! Boy, I feel so rewarded! NOT!!! So, now I&#039;m making $18.75 an hour after two years and because there have been therapists who are doing more massage than me, they have now surpassed me in wages and not to mention that they don&#039;t have as high a request rate nor do they care about their work. They are just there to collect a paycheck! Sounds like a good idea, maybe I should stop caring too! So far, in the last two years of work there, I have injured my thumbs, wrist, back, elbow, and my arches have fallen! But when I ask if I can take it easy for a day, the reply I get is, &quot;Are you sure you can&#039;t do more?&quot; Are you kidding me?!? I have had to drop down to three days a week there because I was hurting myself trying to make a buck! If you ask me, Corporate America has ruined massages now forever! And seriously, it&#039;s a gimmick! The average massage rate in my area of Naperville, IL is about $65. By time my client get done paying for their $59 membership and a $20 tip, it equals out to $79! Which means the pay that they are paying their therapists is close to minimum wage! Furthermore, I found an old paycheck stub from when I use to work at K-mart, now granted I work a 40 hour week, I made more there per year than I do at Massage Envy!!! Because I cannot work more than three days week without hurting myself. Due to the fact that I&#039;m given all the deep tissue massages because all the other therapist don&#039;t know how to give a decent deep tissue massage! And to Jennie Keiper, if it wasn&#039;t for my tips I would be further in the poor house because of Massage Envy. I can&#039;t even afford a car payment or afford to pay my student loans! So, don&#039;t be surprised if you open one and you have a high turnover rate! Secondly, you must have a down payment of $300,000 to open one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I currently work at a Massage Envy and to be quite honest, I hate it with a passion!!! The only thing that is keeping me there is my poor clients!!! All my clients would much rather see me outside of there and are tired of having to tip me so much because of how cheaply I'm paid! I originally was hired in at $17.00 per hour with pay raises of 85 cent every 550 massages. Since then they have done away with merit raises which was based on performance. Now I have to fall under four categories in order to get a raise. 1) 3 in-a-row, 6 in-a-day; (2) deep tissue; (3) pre-natal or hot stone; (4) 2 hour massages. Since I only do 2 of these I can only get a 50 cent raise after two years of service!!! This was not what I was hired under and I think it is ridiculous that I just have to accept the changes. I was last year's most requested therapist and all I got was a $10 gift card to Dominick's!!! Boy, I feel so rewarded! NOT!!! So, now I'm making $18.75 an hour after two years and because there have been therapists who are doing more massage than me, they have now surpassed me in wages and not to mention that they don't have as high a request rate nor do they care about their work. They are just there to collect a paycheck! Sounds like a good idea, maybe I should stop caring too! So far, in the last two years of work there, I have injured my thumbs, wrist, back, elbow, and my arches have fallen! But when I ask if I can take it easy for a day, the reply I get is, "Are you sure you can't do more?" Are you kidding me?!? I have had to drop down to three days a week there because I was hurting myself trying to make a buck! If you ask me, Corporate America has ruined massages now forever! And seriously, it's a gimmick! The average massage rate in my area of Naperville, IL is about $65. By time my client get done paying for their $59 membership and a $20 tip, it equals out to $79! Which means the pay that they are paying their therapists is close to minimum wage! Furthermore, I found an old paycheck stub from when I use to work at K-mart, now granted I work a 40 hour week, I made more there per year than I do at Massage Envy!!! Because I cannot work more than three days week without hurting myself. Due to the fact that I'm given all the deep tissue massages because all the other therapist don't know how to give a decent deep tissue massage! And to Jennie Keiper, if it wasn't for my tips I would be further in the poor house because of Massage Envy. I can't even afford a car payment or afford to pay my student loans! So, don't be surprised if you open one and you have a high turnover rate! Secondly, you must have a down payment of $300,000 to open one!</p>
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		<title>By: Jennie Keiper</title>
		<link>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2007/massage-envy-envy/comment-page-6#comment-30226</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennie Keiper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 00:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a certified massage therapist who has had a small practice for 10+ yrs. I also have 15 yrs. as a Physical Therapist Assistant. I am wondering if anyone of you who has owned a business has looked into becoming a ME owner? If so, what were your thoughts? I hear the concern about pay and I understand. I also here all the debate in regards to high end spas and the comparison of the two. The business model is pretty ingenious in my mind and it works. Yes, they make money and their prime business is membership. Who else has this type of model? How do you think fitness centers make money? They survive on membership sales! Apples to oranges is right! I myself have struggled to increase clientele, because of economical limitations etc. I am a very experienced and licensed practitioner in this state and am frustrated like the rest of the massage therapists. My retention has been high about 80%, but low numbers of clients. I feel blessed to have the clients that have believed in my experience and knowledge, and giving them what they need, not what you need as a practitioner. Tips are optional and many of my clients do not tip and I do not expect it. Clients or patients have needs, if you meet those needs, they will return to you and request your services.  Best wishes to all the massage therapist for their hard work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a certified massage therapist who has had a small practice for 10+ yrs. I also have 15 yrs. as a Physical Therapist Assistant. I am wondering if anyone of you who has owned a business has looked into becoming a ME owner? If so, what were your thoughts? I hear the concern about pay and I understand. I also here all the debate in regards to high end spas and the comparison of the two. The business model is pretty ingenious in my mind and it works. Yes, they make money and their prime business is membership. Who else has this type of model? How do you think fitness centers make money? They survive on membership sales! Apples to oranges is right! I myself have struggled to increase clientele, because of economical limitations etc. I am a very experienced and licensed practitioner in this state and am frustrated like the rest of the massage therapists. My retention has been high about 80%, but low numbers of clients. I feel blessed to have the clients that have believed in my experience and knowledge, and giving them what they need, not what you need as a practitioner. Tips are optional and many of my clients do not tip and I do not expect it. Clients or patients have needs, if you meet those needs, they will return to you and request your services.  Best wishes to all the massage therapist for their hard work!</p>
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		<title>By: SJackson</title>
		<link>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2007/massage-envy-envy/comment-page-6#comment-29640</link>
		<dc:creator>SJackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 07:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, what a debate.  I briefly worked at 2 of these locations.  I now have a private practice and now work part time with a chiropractor.  I know that I will be paid $30 per 1 hour session.  There is a 15 minute buffer between clients and I completely dictate my schedule.  

When I worked at ME much of the staff was unhappy (from the MT&#039;s to the front office).  It was much busier at the 2nd location I worked at and I liked the front office staff a lot.  The first location was new and the front office staff always seemed on edge.  You do work very hard for the base pay if you specialties are deep tissue or nmt.  I did feel rushed at times due to the fast client turn around.  One trick I picked up from therapists that had been there was to layer the sheets so you could just pull off the top two sheets before the next client.

Independent contracting and private practice are more geared to my personality.  One of the reasons I chose this profession was to be my own boss in addition of course to helping people heal.  ME is a good option for those who need immediate work and those who want as little resposibility as possible ie: overhead (rent), scheduling etc.  

Do the best where you are with the options available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, what a debate.  I briefly worked at 2 of these locations.  I now have a private practice and now work part time with a chiropractor.  I know that I will be paid $30 per 1 hour session.  There is a 15 minute buffer between clients and I completely dictate my schedule.  </p>
<p>When I worked at ME much of the staff was unhappy (from the MT's to the front office).  It was much busier at the 2nd location I worked at and I liked the front office staff a lot.  The first location was new and the front office staff always seemed on edge.  You do work very hard for the base pay if you specialties are deep tissue or nmt.  I did feel rushed at times due to the fast client turn around.  One trick I picked up from therapists that had been there was to layer the sheets so you could just pull off the top two sheets before the next client.</p>
<p>Independent contracting and private practice are more geared to my personality.  One of the reasons I chose this profession was to be my own boss in addition of course to helping people heal.  ME is a good option for those who need immediate work and those who want as little resposibility as possible ie: overhead (rent), scheduling etc.  </p>
<p>Do the best where you are with the options available.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2007/massage-envy-envy/comment-page-6#comment-29272</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 22:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I currently work at Massage Envy and have been a LMT for three years. I have to say It is the best job I have ever had. We stay busy and I see a whole lot of repeat clients. There is a lot of bashing going on about Massage Envy from disgruntle ex employees. saying they are slave driving and that they make you work sick and blah blah blah. here is how it goes when you are hired you give the front desk the number of massages you are capable of doing until you need a break. example I can do 4 hrs in a row and 7 hrs max in a day. On occasion there might be a mistake or someone calls in and you have to pick up some slack. But show me one place where that doesn&#039;t happen. Yes you are paid a lot differently too. Starting out you get 15 per hr massage $1 per request and $5 per prospect you sell a membership too. you get a $1 raise after 6 mos and another a year after .you get $2 per request after 18 mos. Plus you gratuity which can range from the people who still tip 20% on a 39 dollar massage to your $25-$30 per hour tippers. On a most days I make about 30-35 dollars an hour. I don&#039;t have to book any of my own appointment, wash any sheets, Or do any heavy cleaning basically I just Massage. I never have a problem getting time off I make about $3000 a month granted I generally do 8 hours of massage a day. There is a bit of competition between MTs over clients but the way I see it is none of these are your personal clients anyway they belong to the company if you leave they are not gonna follow you they will still be there. Now is it hard work heck yea but I am the type of person who would rather work than sit in the back twiddling my thumbs. as far as rushing the clients I add 2 30 min buffer breaks in my schedule so I have time to do a proper introduction and interview and a talk about what we accomplished today and what we will work on next time. I might just be very lucky to have such a great boss but I really do love my clinic it&#039;s my second family. Well that&#039;s the truth nothing sugar coated just the truth. My clinic is in Atlanta GA @ windy hill road. If your ever in town look me up for a top notch massage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I currently work at Massage Envy and have been a LMT for three years. I have to say It is the best job I have ever had. We stay busy and I see a whole lot of repeat clients. There is a lot of bashing going on about Massage Envy from disgruntle ex employees. saying they are slave driving and that they make you work sick and blah blah blah. here is how it goes when you are hired you give the front desk the number of massages you are capable of doing until you need a break. example I can do 4 hrs in a row and 7 hrs max in a day. On occasion there might be a mistake or someone calls in and you have to pick up some slack. But show me one place where that doesn't happen. Yes you are paid a lot differently too. Starting out you get 15 per hr massage $1 per request and $5 per prospect you sell a membership too. you get a $1 raise after 6 mos and another a year after .you get $2 per request after 18 mos. Plus you gratuity which can range from the people who still tip 20% on a 39 dollar massage to your $25-$30 per hour tippers. On a most days I make about 30-35 dollars an hour. I don't have to book any of my own appointment, wash any sheets, Or do any heavy cleaning basically I just Massage. I never have a problem getting time off I make about $3000 a month granted I generally do 8 hours of massage a day. There is a bit of competition between MTs over clients but the way I see it is none of these are your personal clients anyway they belong to the company if you leave they are not gonna follow you they will still be there. Now is it hard work heck yea but I am the type of person who would rather work than sit in the back twiddling my thumbs. as far as rushing the clients I add 2 30 min buffer breaks in my schedule so I have time to do a proper introduction and interview and a talk about what we accomplished today and what we will work on next time. I might just be very lucky to have such a great boss but I really do love my clinic it's my second family. Well that's the truth nothing sugar coated just the truth. My clinic is in Atlanta GA @ windy hill road. If your ever in town look me up for a top notch massage.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca Hermann</title>
		<link>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2007/massage-envy-envy/comment-page-6#comment-29121</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca Hermann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 04:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was wondering what the turnover rate is at Massage Envy? I own a massage therapy business, not a spa and was curious about how many therapists they go thru in say a years time? Any thoughts or comments. I personally, have been through about 12 therapists in the past ten years. I hired a girl who used to work at an Envy based out of Iowa, and from the sounds of it, they go thru&#039; staff rather quickly. Just wondering if that is true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering what the turnover rate is at Massage Envy? I own a massage therapy business, not a spa and was curious about how many therapists they go thru in say a years time? Any thoughts or comments. I personally, have been through about 12 therapists in the past ten years. I hired a girl who used to work at an Envy based out of Iowa, and from the sounds of it, they go thru' staff rather quickly. Just wondering if that is true.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Katz</title>
		<link>http://www.spaboomblog.com/2007/massage-envy-envy/comment-page-6#comment-28928</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 02:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Massage Envy near me is in Columbia Maryland. Their business practices are unethical. After about 3 years of membership I find myself with 11 prepaid sessions... almost a full year&#039;s worth. I&#039;ve been rather busy. I called to temporarily suspend my membership while I whittle away at the 11 I&#039;ve already paid for. I was told I couldn&#039;t use the prepaid massages if I didn&#039;t have an active membership. This is unethical and outrageous. Here is the ultimate insult... when I questioned the logic and ethics of their policy, I was told the driver is the computer system which &quot;doesn&#039;t allow us to book an appointment if the membership isn&#039;t active.&quot; What an insult? I am outraged and plan to pursue my complaint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Massage Envy near me is in Columbia Maryland. Their business practices are unethical. After about 3 years of membership I find myself with 11 prepaid sessions&#8230; almost a full year's worth. I've been rather busy. I called to temporarily suspend my membership while I whittle away at the 11 I've already paid for. I was told I couldn't use the prepaid massages if I didn't have an active membership. This is unethical and outrageous. Here is the ultimate insult&#8230; when I questioned the logic and ethics of their policy, I was told the driver is the computer system which "doesn't allow us to book an appointment if the membership isn't active." What an insult? I am outraged and plan to pursue my complaint.</p>
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